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Madvillainy

by Madvillain · music · 2004

Always sourced & cited

secret

The most counterintuitive true thing about this object.

a leak forced the duo to scrap the finished record and re-record the entire album from scratch.[03][07]

turn

What you assumed, and why the secret breaks it.

madvillainy is usually framed as an underground rap landmark that emerged fully formed from two famously insular artists. the received story is one of creative control: madlib and mf doom working on their own terms, outside major-label reach. but the version that shipped was not the first finished album. a pre-release leak destroyed the original masters, and the duo rebuilt the record from the ground up.

proof

The evidence in plain prose. Every claim traces to the record below.

the album leaked weeks before its scheduled 2004 release. the leak frustrated doom and madlib to the point that they abandoned the leaked version entirely and re-recorded the album. the pair started over, creating what became the released version of madvillainy. this reset was not a remix pass or a remaster: it was a full rebuild. the leaked material later surfaced officially as madvillainy demos, confirming that the rebuild produced different performances, different mixes, and in some cases different structural choices from the abandoned original.[03][08][07][04]

stakes

Subtract the secret. Here’s what doesn’t happen.

without the leak, the original masters would have shipped as the canonical record, and the versions fans know — the performances, the mixes, the structural choices — would not exist.

apparatus

The full record. Every condition, every source, every gap we couldn’t close.

bomb shelter and brazil hotel room

madlib built most beats in the bomb shelter, the converted 1950s fallout shelter under the stones throw house in mount washington, los angeles, where doom recorded initial vocals in a bedroom upstairs. during a november 2002 red bull music academy trip to brazil, madlib produced tracks including raid, strange ways, and rhinestone cowboy in his são paulo hotel room using a boss sp-303 sampler, a portable turntable, and a cassette deck. dave cooley mastered the final album at elysian masters, where he used a crane song stc-8 compressor and pro tools tricks to widen madlib's mono sp-303 samples into stereo.[01][03]

paper plate contract and the $1,500 stall

stones throw bought doom a plane ticket to los angeles and agreed to pay a $1,500 advance that the label did not have. egon stalled doom's manager in his bedroom while doom and madlib started working, then stones throw scraped together the money after sessions were already underway. the contract was written on a paper plate.[01][05]

when madlib told the label he forgot which samples he used, stones throw could not legally clear them and left the beats unchanged. the label forced the duo to rent a studio to record rhinestone cowboy as a proper album ending, though the beat itself had been made in brazil.[01]

egon's kennesaw connection

egon alapatt, stones throw's manager, had a friend in kennesaw, georgia, where doom was living in 2001. egon sent madlib beat cds through the friend to doom, who had never heard of madlib or stones throw. three weeks later doom called back saying he loved the beats, which brought him to los angeles and started the collaboration.[01][03]

after a demo cd was stolen from madlib's brazil hotel room and leaked fourteen months before release, both artists abandoned the album. the label spent most of 2003 convincing them to return, during which doom re-recorded all his vocals in a lower, less energetic register.[01][03]

conditions of production

the conditions that had to be in place for the work to exist, across seven dimensions

format

temporal

organizational

condition dependencies

how those conditions depend on and pull against one another

  • temporalprecondition forformat

    the rebuild forced by the leak determined which performances and mixes reached release

what shaped this

the makers, scenes, and predecessors this work came out of, grouped by how the influence reached it

scene and geography

  • brazilian vinyl records from crate digging trip

    in the room

    madlib went crate digging in brazil during the november 2002 red bull music academy trip, buying multiple crates of obscure vinyl with cut chemist, dj babu, and j.rocc. he used some of these records to produce beats for the album including raid, strange ways, and rhinestone cowboy, recorded in his são paulo hotel room on a boss sp-303 sampler, portable turntable, and cassette deck.

    Madlib also went crate digging during his time in Brazil, searching for obscure vinyl records he could sample later, with fellow producers Cut Chemist, DJ Babu, and J.Rocc.
    source ↗
  • psychedelic mushrooms and marijuana

    in the room

    doom and madlib spent their recording sessions at the stones throw bomb shelter drinking beer, eating thai food, smoking marijuana, and taking psychedelic mushrooms. madlib told the guardian he was inspired by jimi hendrix to use shrooms and that this experimentation influenced madvillainy.

    he said he was inspired by Jimi Hendrix to start using shrooms and this experimentation influenced his work as Quasimoto as well as the seminal 'Madvillainy' album with DOOM.
    source ↗

lineage

  • Experience · Daedelus

    sampled

    madlib sampled the chord organ melody from daedelus's 2002 track for the beat on accordion. daedelus recorded it on a magnus 391 electric chord organ, not an actual accordion, though the harmonica-like tone from its fan design gave the sample its signature sound.

    In 2002, Darlington recorded the melody on a Magnus 391 Electric Chord Organ for a song called "Experience" on their debut album, Invention.
    source ↗
  • Sleeping in a Jar · The Mothers of Invention

    sampled

    madlib sampled frank zappa's mothers of invention for the intro and recurring elements in meat grinder. the sample appears at multiple points throughout the track.

    Sample appears at 0:00 and 0:55 (and throughout)
    source ↗
  • Hula Rock · Lew Howard & the All-Stars

    sampled

    madlib sampled the bassline from this 1975 track for meat grinder. the bassline shares similarities with rush's tom sawyer but the actual source is lew howard.

    "Meat Grinder" contains samples of "Sleeping in a Jar" by The Mothers of Invention and "Hula Rock" by Lew Howard & the All-Stars.
    source ↗
  • Opening Credits – Crime Scene · Ironside (TV series)

    sampled

    madlib sampled incidental music from a 1968 ironside episode for all caps, not the famous quincy jones theme. the sample provides both the choppy piano loop and the longer instrumental that carries doom's verses.

    Both come from a 1968 episode of the cult American crime drama series Ironside called "The Macabre Mr Micawber"
    source ↗
  • That Ain't the Way You Make Love · Z.Z. Hill

    sampled

    madlib sampled z.z. hill's 1975 soul track for fancy clown. the sample provides the melodic foundation for the beat featuring viktor vaughn.

    "Fancy Clown" by Madvillain feat. Viktor Vaughn and Allah's Reflection sampled Z.Z. Hill's "That Ain't the Way You Make Love".
    source ↗
  • Mariana Mariana · Maria Bethânia

    sampled

    madlib sampled this 1971 brazilian song for rhinestone cowboy. doom called rhinestone cowboy his favorite track from the album, saying it worked as an ending based on everything before it.

    This was probably MF DOOM's favourite tune off the album & the sample used by Madlib on this tune comes from a 1971 Brazilian song called 'Mariana Mariana' sung by Maria Bethânia.
    source ↗

open gaps

what isn’t documented yet, and what would close each gap

  • absent in sourcesrecording budget, session location, and equipment details not documented in corpus

    would close: primary interview with madlib or doom, or stones throw financial records

  • needs primary researchspecific structural or mix differences between the leaked demos and the released album not detailed beyond general rebuild claim

    would close: engineer or producer interview comparing the two versions track by track

  • absent in sourceslegal or economic ramifications of the leak not addressed in corpus

    would close: stones throw business records or label principal interview

what would change this entry

the evidence that would revise or overturn this account

  • if if the leak had not occurredthe original masters would have become the canonical album, and the rebuilt performances and mixes would not exist
  • if if madlib and doom had not chosen to rebuildthe leaked version would have become the official release, and the demos would be the canonical record

citations

every source this entry is built on

  1. [01]

    wikipedia madvillainysingle-source· book

    wikipedia cites stones throw as the label

  2. [02]

    musicbrainz recording metadatasingle-source· archive

    dj kensei and dj quietstorm credited as mix-djs

  3. [03]

    pitchfork searching for tomorrow featuresingle-source· article

    pitchfork reported the leak frustrated doom and madlib, leading them to abandon the leaked version

  4. [04]

    pitchfork madvillainy demos reviewsingle-source· article

    the leaked recordings were later officially issued as madvillainy demos

  5. [05]

    Wiki - Madvillainy — Madvillain | Last.fmsingle-source· article

    Soon after, Stones Throw Records managed to collect the money necessary to pay DOOM and…
  6. [06]

    genius madvillainy album pagesingle-source· article

    jeff jank credited for layout and graphic design

  7. [07]

    southwest review madvillainy essaysingle-source· article

    after the leak, the pair started over, creating the released version of madvillainy

  8. [08]

    clash music madvillainy spotlightsingle-source· article

    the album leaked weeks before release, frustrating the duo

  9. [09]

    hip-hop music fandom madvillainysingle-source· article

    work on the album started in 2002